According to Nestlé, the Toll House recipe originated with Ruth Wakefield who, along with her husband, operated the a lodge in New England called the Toll House Inn. Sometime in the early 1930's, Ruth was preparing cookies for her guests when she chopped up a bar of Nestlé Semi-Sweet chocolate and added it to the dough. The result became the most popular chocolate chip cookie recipe in the world. By 1939, Nestlé began producing the Toll House Morsels to make it easy for everyone to make this recipe.
The recipe is actually quite simple and straightforward. Wet ingredients are mixed first until evenly distributed and then dry ingredients are mixed it. Lastly, chocolate chips and (if desired) chopped nuts are mixed in by hand. The interesting thing is that by altering the quantity of one ingredient (flour) we can achieve cookies of all sorts of different textures.
The recipe calls for 2-1/4 cup flour (which is 280 g if the flour has been sifted or up to 360 g if the flour has completely settled), 1 tsp. (4.6 g) baking soda, 1 tsp. (6 g) table salt, 2 cups (340 g) chocolate chips, 1 cup (220 g) unsalted softened butter, 2 large (100 g) eggs, 1 tsp. (5 mL) vanilla extract, 3/4 cup (150 g) granulated sugar, and 3/4 cup (165 g) brown sugar. The mass conversions are mine and, wherever possible, I assumed USDA Nutrient Standards for volume to mass ratios. The original recipe includes one cup chopped nuts which I chose to exclude from this recipe as I wished to make a plain chocolate chip cookie for this article.
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Some of the early results from the first three batches |
Speaking of flour, take the 360 g flour and mix it with the baking soda and table salt. Set aside to be mixed into the dough later.
On low speed, mix the butter, granulated sugar, brown sugar, and vanilla extract until smooth. This is easiest with softened (but not melted) butter. Softening butter just means you leave it out for a while (an hour or two should do it). If it becomes so soft that a butter knife drop through it (placed flat side on top of the butter) by the weight of the knife alone, then that's perfect. I like to start off by simply dropping my two sticks of butter into the mixing bowl and going about my other business. When I come back to the kitchen and remember that I'm making cookies, the butter is generally soft enough by then. This technique may not work as well for others.
Once the mixture is evenly blended, scrape down the sides with a spatula and add one large egg. Beat at low speed until blended, then add the second egg and beat until fully integrated.
Scrape down the sides one last time and set the mixer on low speed. Gently add the flour, baking soda, and salt mixture into the mixing bowl a little at a time. If you're too fast, you'll see a lot of flour build up as your mixer beats the dough. Just stop and wait until you don't see as much white and continue until all the flour is in the dough. Stop the mixer and remove the bowl.
Pour in the chocolate chips and mix by hand. We don't want the mixer to do this part because it might become over zealous and smoosh our chocolate. The desired result is to have pockets of velvety smooth chocolate interspersed through our cookie, not for the whole thing to be chocolaty. This is also the right time to add any chopped nuts or other additions you may wish to make to the cookie.
At this point, if you haven't preheated your oven to 375°F, it's a good time to do so.
The next step is to form the cookies themselves. I prefer to bake the cookies on either a silicone baking mat or on parchment paper. Both work equally well in providing a nonstick surface that doesn't overly brown the edges of the cookies (like aluminum foil might do). Forming the cookies is easy - you don't have to worry about shape much since the dough melts as it bakes and flows into a circle. I did the first few batches with a tablespoon and my hands, but washing my hands to move trays around got tedious, so I did the last several tests using a tablespoon and a teaspoon to scoop and plop the dough onto the sheet.
According to the recipe, you can make 60 cookies per batch. I must make big cookies because in the week of testing, I never ended up with more than 32 in a batch (I use a heaping tablespoons). The cookies end up roughly the same thickness, so if you like thicker cookies, you'll need to use more flour than the recipe states. Also, by making smaller cookies they'll seem thicker because the thickness remains roughly constant while the diameter reduces.
The cookies should be baked for ten minutes (give or take a minute depending on your oven) at 375°F. I tested baking at 300°F (for 20 minutes) and 450°F (for 6 minutes) and didn't really notice much difference in the final product once the cookies fully cooled.
When making the reduced flour (thin and chewy) cookies, placement of the cookie dough is fairly important since the dough spreads out quite a bit while baking.
Once one pan of cookies is done, take them out of the oven and slide the next pan in. Let the cookies cool on the pan for about five minutes and then transfer them to a wire rack to cool completely. They can be stored in an air tight container at room temperature for about a week - if they aren't eaten up first.}?>
Nestlé® Toll House® Chocolate Chip Cookies
Preheat oven to 375°F (190°C) | |||||||
1 cup (220 g) unsalted butter | soften | beat | beat in one egg at a time | slowly beat in flour | stir | form into rough balls on a baking pan | bake 375°F (190°C) 10 min. |
3/4 cup (150 g) granulated sugar | |||||||
3/4 cup (165 g) brown sugar | |||||||
1 tsp. (5 mL) vanilla extract | |||||||
2 large (100 g) eggs | |||||||
2-3/4 cup (plus 1/8 cup) (360 g) flour | mix | ||||||
1 tsp. (4.6 g) baking soda | |||||||
1 tsp. (6 g) table salt | |||||||
2 cups (340 g) chocolate chips | |||||||
1 cup chopped nuts (optional) |
Thin and Chewy Chocolate Chip Cookies
Preheat oven to 375°F (190°C) | |||||||
1 cup (220 g) unsalted butter | soften | beat | beat in one egg at a time | slowly beat in flour | stir | form into rough balls on a baking pan | bake 375°F (190°C) 10 min. |
3/4 cup (150 g) granulated sugar | |||||||
3/4 cup (165 g) brown sugar | |||||||
1 tsp. (5 mL) vanilla extract | |||||||
2 large (100 g) eggs | |||||||
2-1/4 cup (280 g) flour | mix | ||||||
1 tsp. (4.6 g) baking soda | |||||||
1 tsp. (6 g) table salt | |||||||
2 cups (340 g) chocolate chips |
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I will be making the softer cookies though, I have always preferred this texture to the hard and dry variety.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=pd_sl_aw_tops-1_kitchen_7302985_2/104-030...her
Alton Brown recommends a #20, however I find that a little big for my tastes and prefer a #40.
Thanks for all the great recipes, keep 'em coming!
I use a combination of whole wheat, unbleached all-purpose flour and oats, because the fiber is good for you and because the whole grains complement the butter. I also often substitute one stick of butter with applesauce to cut down some of the fat. I find the applesauce makes the cookies moister, and does not compromise the flavor. I only use Ghiradelli chocolate chips and I often substitute pure maple flavoring for the vanilla. I like to add chopped pecans or walnuts, as well. My cookies taste decadent.
While I have discovered that beating the butter and sugars together, until light and fluffy, is important, I have found that mixing the wet ingredients first, then just dumping all the dry ingredients on top and mixing it in, makes no difference in taste and appearance (as long as the baking soda is not clumpy).
Finally, using a cookie scoop speeds up the process of dropping dough onto the cookie sheet, and keeps the cookies uniform in size.
I find it interesting that other people have used/developed the half butter/half shortening method as well as doubling the vanilla. We buy our vanilla down in Juarez for roughly $5/ quart so it's cheap to be liberal with it.
I've also tried adding ground up oatmeal for a portion of the flour. This makes for a "meatier" cookie.
As for eggs, I've noticed when making creme brulee and cheese cake that it does much better if the eggs are room temperature. Does anyone think that could produce better cookies too? Maybe better blending between the wet ingredients?
One difference I've yet to see yet is modifying the sugars. I use 1 cup brown sugar (dark) and a half cup of white rather than the 3/4 cup of both the recipe uses.
As an aside, I met my soon-to-be wife (less than a month to the wedding!) by having the best tasting chocolate chip cookies at a Bible study...
-Strider
Side note: When I was a kid, we lived next door to Wally Amos when he was first launching the brand. When he moved, my mom got his cookie sheets.
how much applesauce do you use? thanks!
Using all brown sugar, a variation that I've seen on some bags of chips, makes a very rich cookie.
But I think he was even more of a genius and expert when it came to baking his chocolate desserts and his cookies would disappear from the lunchroom where we worked within minutes.
Here is the recipe that he used. Note the details on the technique which he says are very important.
http://www.kohala.com/start/recipes/ultimatecookie.html
I was just going to point out that Alton Brown had an episode called "Three Chips for Sister Martha" (the title is a reference to "three quarks for Muster Mark," a Finnegan's Wake phrase from which the discoverer of quarks drew their name-- I figured the enginerds among us could appreciate that) in which he is blackmailed by his TV-sister to produce three variations of Toll House cookies, which he does without actually referring to the Toll House brand or its precise recipe. The website doesn't mind, though, so click that link to get 3 variations on the recipe: thin, puffy, and chewy. (Note that some introduce ingredients not found on the back of your chips bag, such as bread or cake flour!)
Also, while I do subscribe to Michael's mixer+neglect method of softening butter, I have also been known to throw cold (from the fridge) sticks of butter in the mixer and turn it on a medium-low speed-- that'll bat the butter around for a few minutes and soften it mechanically. From there, drop the speed so you don't get sugar everywhere, add the sugar, and up the speed when you can back to medium or whatnot. The sugar blends in no time. This rather assumes you can put up with the noise.
Also, I found that leaving the dough in the fridge overnight and baking them while the dough is really cold keeps them from spreading and getting really thin.
Actually, I did consider this. Since refrigerating makes a pretty big difference when making peanut butter cookies, I chilled at least two pans (about a dozen cookies) from each batch and baked them and noted the results. In the more butter rich recipes (thinner cookies), I found that refrigerating did result in cookies that were noticably thicker. The unrefrigerated ones really spread out nice and thin. As I increased the amount of flour, I noticed that the increased thickness of the cookies wasn't as noticably different when baked from warm or chilled dough - so I did not remark on them in the recipe.
A friend of mine doesn't use the cookie technique when she bakes-- she adds all the ingredients (well, except for oats and chips, that sort of thing) to make the batter, and then stirs in chips and whatnot. In her experience, it turns out a crisp cookie on the thin side, but now I wonder if it isn't just the timing of when she makes things. I wonder about these things because another friend gave me, as a gift, a large mason jar containing the dry ingredients of a cookie recipe, and since I won't easily be able to separate the sugar from the rest to cream it, I guess I'll find out what happens when the dough is formed without creaming.
skip egg, replace flour with gluten free flour mix, replace refined sugar by plain organic vegan sugar (plus a dollup of molasses), replace crisco by coconut oil, skip nuts, and use a safe chocolate chip ('chemical' free)
The recipe leads to 48 cookies. Roll the luckwarm batter in your hands into perfect marbles of dough (about 1in across) and place on cookie sheet. Then play with cooking time and cooking temp to create either crunchy or chewy cookies.
People are crazy about my cookies, and still refuse to believe there are nut free, dairy free, wheat free, gluten free, egg free, refined sugar free...
Plus they look extra cool, with a perfect round shape, and smoothed-in chocolate chips.
Ness
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we dont need 'chemical' in food to enjoy GOOD food.
Thanks :)
Check this page out for more names for the different grades of sugar:
http://www.foodsubs.com/Sweeten.html
As for the picture-- I note that the recipe calls for 3/4 cup of each granulated sugar and brown sugar, and judging from the size of the bowl pictured, I'd guess that Michael measured the white sugar in first and the the brown sugar on top.
Brown sugar is different from white sugar only because of a small amount of molasses, and molasses is always good in cookies (well, tends to make them softer or more moist), so if you only have brown sugar, don't hesitate to make it, unless you're in need of a hard cookie.
That's exactly what happened. I weighed the granulated sugar first and then scooped the brown sugar in until I had enough. Unfortunately, my plan of splitting the bowl in half didn't work out as I had to keep scooping out more brown sugar.
Nestles places Toll House Chocolate Chip Dough Bars right next to the eggs. The refrigerated dough bars are ready to bake. They come scored so that the perfect amount of dough for a single cookie can be broken off from the bar. All you have to do is bake them.
I usually have a package in the freezer. So when the mood hits, I break off as many cookies as I want to cook, and throw the remainder back in the freezer. And voila, time to break out the milk.
I know this sounds wrong in the context of this most excellent website. And I haven't (and probably won't for this one) checked the ingredients list for additives that may not be healthy. But what pre-packaging does in this case is provide portion control. Toll Houses are one of my favorites, and as previously mentioned, I am weak. So when I cook a batch from scratch, I tend to eat them until I no longer feel well. Then the following morning I sneak a couple for breakfast. So if I can limit how many I cook, I also limit how many I eat. The going rate is two cookies per head. Unless it's my birthday. Then we make the whole batch.
I have not experimented with making and freezing the dough myself. If anyone has any experience with this endeavor, please let me know.
I believe that most cookie recipes especially those on the back of packages assume the flour is NOT sifted. There should be a 1-800 number on the back of the package for help with the recipe.
Sifting is generally used when you're making cakes or other "delicate" baked goods where too much flour can throw the recipe off, but for cookies and quick breads the typical method is to spoon the flour into the measuring cup to overflowing and level off with a straight edge. No tamping required.
When I was experimenting around with making wild yeast/sourdough breads, I tried different methods of filling a cup of flour. Using the method described above, I found that I consistently achieved 150 g per cup +/- 2 g.
1) Prior to cooking, freeze the dough for about an hour. It makes the dough more compact and spread out less [more like a Mrs Fields cookie, thick and chewy]. I also recommend getting a cookie scoop from Pampered Chef or other baking store which helps consistently delivery the same better each time.
2) Cook at 375 for the first 9 minutes and then lower the temperature to 325 for the remaining period. This sets the flour and shape of the cookie. If you kept it at 375 for the entire period, it ends up more cake like and if you bake at 325 for the entire time, the margerine melts and creates a very thin cookie because the flour hasn't set. Putting the batter in the freezer for a little while also helps this.
This is the first time I have seen your website...awesome!
I just made a batch of Toll House cookies like I usually do. I let them cool as directed and placed them in a ziplock baggie to bring to a party tomorrow.
I have always found that they are chewy when you make them, but harden as they cool....but then they usually get softer again.
This time they seem to be staying hard. I know my friends/family like them when they get soft. Any suggesstions how to do that? Should I let some air get into the bag? Remove air from the bag? There has to be a way and I hope one of you can tell me how to do it.
Thanks in advance!
-Pam :unsure:
I use only 3/4 tsp of baking soda and 3/4 tsp of salt. I've got it down to a science and that's why always perfect results.
Well darn. I don't seem to have a copy around. I guess I left it on the school server and my account is long since gone.
Anyway, I tried butter, margerine and shortening for the lipids. And I used a traditional stainless cookie sheet, a solid teflon coated sheet and one of the non-stick air bake sheets. I think I also did a batch of half butter and half shortening.
IIRC, the lipids didn't affect the cookie thickness in any statistically significant way. The air bake sheet seemed to make the thickest cookies, which surprised me as I was expecting the plain metal pan to make the thicker ones.
Then my fellow classmates ate my results...
Personally, I like the flavor of all butter or half butter/half shortening cookies. I usually make a double batch and then add one bag of white chips in addition to the two bags of chocolate chips.
Sam's Club sold a 10lb bag of chocolate chips until about five years ago. I miss that.
If I have a bit of extra time, I like to dump the cookie dough into a wax paper lined bread pan and then refrigerate it overnight. Then I use a heavy knife to cut it into cubes prior to baking. Other than the normal results of refrigeration, I can't say that this makes any difference. I just like dropping cubes on the cookie sheet instead of the somewhat inexact measurement of spooning it on.
The ingredient that makes them so different is the full 12oz bag of semi-sweet chips that you melt and then add after all the liquids and before the solids. You can melt chocolate chips on a double-boiler, of course, but it's so simple in the microwave: put them in a glass bowl, and nuke on high for about 90 seconds to 2 minutes. Then wait-- there's enough heat stored in there now to melt the lot, and if you let it rest a few minutes, it'll do the work for you, so you aren't stirring the whole time. If you see the outermost cookies wilting stick in a good spatula and start stirring.
After you add the dry ingredients, stir in a second 12 oz. bag of chocolate chips-- I went with a high-quality milk chocolate, but it would've tasted great with semi-sweet again. Then bake rounded teaspoons of the stuff, on parchment, at 350F in about 8-9-10 minutes-- pull them out when they get good and puffed up-- they'll collapse a little as they cool on the baking sheet (2 minutes, then 5 minutes on the rack), but they're good, and they are cookies rather than round flat brownies (of either the fudgy or cakey variety). Recipe makes 48 people happy for a few minutes.
1) Shortening makes a thicker, more "homestyle" cookie. Butter has awesome flavour, but results in thin, crispy cookies. I use Crisco Trans-Fat Free -- if and as they make it with the butter flavour, I'll use that. Folks prefer the taller, lighter cookie -- trust me on this one.
2) The "back of the bag" recipe doubles easily -- you'll need a little extra flour.
3) The amount of flour depends heavily on the type of weather you're having when you make them. Heavy, humid days result in flat cookies that need more flour -- dry days result in lighter cookies that need less flour. There's no rule about how much more or less -- as you make this recipe regularly, you'll learn how the dough is supposed to feel, and you can adjust the dough to match that.
4) Don't go cheap and substitute chocolate chips -- use the Toll House. I don't know why, but nobody else's chips taste like that.
5) Use real vanilla extract -- it really makes a difference. If you really want a treat, use a double-strength vanilla like that available from Penzey's spices (penzeys.com)
The Engineer's Daughter
http://www.cooksillustrated.com/login.asp?did=325&LoginForm=tasting&iseason=
On the real vanilla debate, I've gotta weigh in on the real side.. I've tried it both ways (vanilla is expensive if you're not in Mexico), and the real (and triple the amount on the NTH package) tastes MUCH better!
Phenom (guest)
The difference was that she used only white sugar and no brown. Can one of the engineers please tell me how that affects the cookie ?Thanks
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I live in Malaysia and here salted butter is more commonly used for baking. I'm wondering what is the difference between the results of unsalted and salted butter in the cookies?
Will it affect the texture of the cookies? Also what is the purpose of adding salt?
The problem is that whey protein often bakes up very hard. Many energy/protein bars balance this with significant amounts of fat to keep the bar moist and chewable - thus the classic texture of a protein bar. I haven't experimented with adding extra protein to cookies, so I can't comment on how that would be done while preserving the texture of the cookie.
Will it affect the texture of the cookies? Also what is the purpose of adding salt?
Don't worry - even here in the United States, salted butter is more popular than unsalted. The reason we call for unsalted butter in a recipe is because there's no way to know how much salt is in any brand or batch of salted butter. You can try to calculate this based on the Nutrition Information panel, but that's fairly inaccurate. Until butter manufacturers print just how much salt they are adding to their butter, you could end up with drastically different salt levels in your final baked good.
Lucky for us, unsalted butter exists. If we use unsalted butter we can manually add the required amount of salt to the recipe and there wouldn't be an issue of having excessive salt or too little salt.
The reason why salt is added to sweets like toffee or cookies is that it brings out extra flavor and sweetness without adding additional sugar or flavorings. A batch made without salt will taste somewhat bland in comparison to a batch made with salt (but too much salt makes it taste funny).
I've recently moved to Australia, and found that my tollhouse cookies come out very, very flat.
I've tried using different types of butter, and I've used many different ovens, but they never seem to come out right.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jack
I want to make these as gifts for friends and family.
I read that adding more flour can do the trick, but does this compromise the taste lost with the other ingredients? And, does the baking time or temperature also need to be altered?
Any tried and proven solutions would be greatly appreciated![/color:b17c2dae44]
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Here's the link to Alton Brown's three variations on Nestle Toll House cookies:
http://www.cookingforengineers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1099&highlight=alton+brown+toll+house
I prefer the cookies to result in soft and chewy.
I was hoping to use my oatmeal cookie recipe. And this recipe includes light brown sugar.
I was also thinking that placing the cookie dough that's already been dropped on the cookie sheet in the fridge to firm it. Sometimes the dough can get too warm with the climate here in Florida and begin to melt some.
I've gotten lots of raves from the various groups who have sampled my cookies. (And my teenaged sons won't eat anyone else's homemade chocolate chip cookies!)
After baking so MANY batches of cookies, they aren't as tempting to me as they used to be. However, putting them in the freezer helps to ration them out, instead of letting my sons eat until they're miserable.
Absolutely. At high altitude where water boils off faster, the cookie may dry out before the substance of the cookie is actually cooked if the oven temperature is maintained constant. We really need the expertise of a high altitude cook here. High altitude cooking is considered to be about 3500 feet plus or minus depending on who you ask.
see this google search result for high altitude cooking:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=high+altitude+cooking&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
As far as alititude (actually barometric pressure) is concerned, at sea level and standard temperature and pressure, the barometric pressure is close to 30"Hg and water boils at 212F. In Denver CO at 5200 ft, where the normal barometric pressure is about 24.5"Hg, the boiling point is about 202F. At Mt Everest at 29,000 ft, the barometric pressure is about 10"Hg, and the boiling point of water is about 175F. There is roughly a one degree F decrease in BP for every 540 feet in altitude. Above 15,000 feet this guide doesn't hold up well, but people don't generally live there.
The weather also plays a role in the boiling point of water. At sea level (New York, Miami, San Francisco) bad, rainy weather (29.5"Hg) may lower the boiling point one degree, in a hurricane (29"Hg) the boiling point is still around 210, maybe a little less in a stronger hurricaine where the barometric pressure is less, but weather doesn't play as big a role as altitude.
If you don't, and your batch requires more than one trip to the oven for this pan, your first batch will turn out differently because the pan has to come up to temp, while it is already hot for the remaining batches.
Preheating the pan as well results in better consistency for all cookies.
I have an original recipe from a 6oz. bag of Nestle's semi-sweet chocolate chips dating back to the 70s. It has 1/4 tsp water in the ingredient list. Although labor-intensive, I mix batches of this recipe and never double it.
I don't like overly sweet and soft cookies. I reduce both white and brown sugar by 1/3, and reduce the chocolate chips by 1/2 and add more as needed while I drop the cookies onto sheets.
I use unsalted butter, light brown sugar, double the nuts, and am generous with the vanilla. Again, because the original recipe is old, I use medium sized or small "large" egg. I don't think the large egg of the 70s were as large as they are today.
I bake these for my office and our annual bake sale. They're usually gone in minutes. Thanks for letting me share my secrets.
A tip: An easy way to soften butter quickly and evenly is to unwrap the whole stick, cut into slices and stick them around the sides your mixing bowl. It softens much faster (in minutes) and there's not so much butter stuck to the wrapper.
When you're ready to cream the butter, just scrape the pieces together with a spatula.
When you're ready to cream the butter, just scrape the pieces together with a spatula.
That's a great idea--using the mixing bowl as a heat sink.
In the first case, if you are over 1000 m in altitude, you can make the following adjustments to your recipe: Reduce sugar by 1/4 c (4 Tbsp) total; add 2 Tbsp water; and add 1/4 c flour (this assumes the standard-size Toll House Cookie recipe).
In the second case, which I betcha is the more likely issue, it turns out that the all-purpose flours in many countries don't have as much protein/gluten in them as U.S. AP flour does. That protein adds a bit of tensile strength to the cookie, preventing it from spreading as much. If you are using lower-protein flour, your cookies may have an almost peculiarly sandy, crumbly texture.
I'm not going to go into huge detail here, but AP flour is about 12% protein in the U.S. Elsewhere, standard flours might contain as little as 7-9% protein (more like U.S. "pastry flour"). This makes a noticeable difference in the outcome of baked goods. FYI, cake flour in the U.S. is usually 5-6% protein.
To correct that second problem, I suggest the following: (a) mix the dough a bit longer than usual after adding the flour, to activate what gluten you have; (b) add another 1/4 cup (and possibly as much as 1/2 cup) flour, and/or (c) refrigerate your dough for 2-3 hours before shaping and baking. If you want to go whole-geek, you can contact the flour manufacturers, ask them (if they'll tell you) what the protein content of their flours are, and then mix your own blends of bread flour and other flours to come up with a product that is about 12% protein.
My final caveats are (a) the elasticity of unbleached flour is more than that of bleached flour. This means that a bleached flour cookie will probably spread a bit more than an unbleached one; and (b) be certain that your measuring cups, if you didn't obtain them in the U.S., are measuring the correct amounts. That is, your "cup" should be 240-250 ml, your Tbsp 15 ml, your tsp 5 ml.
There are less enjoyable things to experiment with than cookie dough.
--Chuck
remember from my childhood. I'm hoping for cookies that hold
their shape
Sounds to me like all crisco (hate to do that) or 1/2 butter and
1/2 crisco result in this kind of cookie.
Has anyone perfected this type of cookie? Any ideas about the best
combination of brown and white sugar?
Love the web site! Thank you!
http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=Toll%20house%20chocolate%20crunch%20cookies
I use room temperature butter and eggs and everything else,
BUT,
I freeze the chocolate chips and the already chopped pecans.
I put the salt in with the baking soda and water and mix well.
Then I add the flour last and mix only till incorporated.
I then add the frozen chip and pecans and get immediately chilled dough!!!
Also, I use a cookie scoop and place the dough balls next to each other on a cookie sheet and place the sheet in the freezer. After freezing I wrap them in double Ziplock bags (the large ones) and I have my very own ready bake Toll House cookies. B) http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=Toll%20house%20chocolate%20crunch%20cookies
I can't stress how good these cookies are. B) B) B)
Help, guys!
If you really want chewy, you could substitute some ground nuts (walnuts, almonds, pecans) for some of the flour. About half a cup should do. (I'm one of those "just throw some of that in" type of cooks, so I frequently don't know how much of something I use. I go by consistency.) (So why am I posting on a site for Engineers?) A lot of people like to put nuts in their chocolate chip cookies, so it wouldn't be an odd taste.
Ruth Wakefield [June 17, 1903-January 10, 1977], Whitman Mass., is credited for inventing chocolate chip cookies at her Toll House Restaurant in the early 1930s. According to the story, Ruth used a Nestle candy bar for her chips. We will probably never know if Ruth was the very first person to put chocolate pieces in cookies, but she is certainly the one who made them famous. Nestle began marketing Ruth's chocolate chip cookies to the general public in 1941. The caption under the photograph printed by the New York Times (January 2, 1985 I 12:5) describing the fire that destroyed Ruth Wakefield's kitchen the reads "Wreckage of Toll House Restaurant in Whitman, Mass. It was where the chocolate chip cookie was invented." In the July, 1997 Governor Weld signed legislation that declared chocolate chip cookies to be the *official cookie of the Commonwealth* in honor or Ruth Wakefield (much to the dismay of the Fig Newton faction).
Mrs. Wakefield's original recipe
"Toll House Chocolate Crunch Cookies
Cream 1 cup butter, add 3/4 cup brown sugar, 3/4 cup granulated sugar and 2 eggs beaten whole. Dissolve 1 tsp. Soda in 1 tsp. Hot water, and mix alternately with 2 1/4 cups flour sifted with 1 tsp. Salt. Lastly add 1 cup chopped nuts and 2 bars (7-oz.) Nestles yellow label chocolate, semi-sweet, which has been cut in pieces the size of a pea. Flavor with 1 tsp vanilla and drip half teaspoons on a greased cookie sheet. Bake 10 to 12 minutes in 375 degrees F. Oven. Makes 100 cookies."
---Toll House Tried and True Recipes, Ruth Wakefield [M. Barrows:New York] 1947 (p. 216)
The Hershey's 1934 Cookbook contains a recipe for "Chocolatetown chip cookies" (p. 75) that includes a 12 ounce package of Hershey's Baking Chips.
Ms. Wakefield's cookbook collection is currently located at the Henry Whittemore Library of Framingham State College (MA).
Someone please try this recipe (like Mr. Chu perhaps?)
I'd like to hear your opinion IF maybe this recipe actually seems better to anyone else.
Thank you.
- Use Splenda (3/4 cup) instead of the white sugar; this helps reduce the sugar somewhat if you have diabetics around as I do, and it makes a lighter, fluffier cookie that many people seem to prefer.
- Don't use the Splenda brown sugar substitute. It's half white sugar anyway, and the texture suffers quite a bit. I use dark brown sugar or light brown sugar and a tablespoon of either molasses or Grade A Dark Amber maple syrup.
- I usually add up to 3 Tbsp (not tsp) of Ceylon cinnamon powder. I also grate fresh nutmeg (a 1/4 - 1/3 of a nutmeg) into the batter. These were named "Chocolate Chip Love Cookies" by Buddy Guy at the Blushing Zebra folk club in Philadelphia in 1988, and that's what my family still calls them. I made about 20 dozen of these cookies a week for the Blushing Zebra in an apartment-sized oven. :) I lasted two years before I had to take a break, and then I got hooked on making banana muffins instead.
- I always use large eggs as others have noted
- I always use butter. Margarine is good for something, but it has nothing to do with food.
- I don't sift my flour but I don't exactly measure it either. I could make these cookies while nearly asleep and I know when it looks right. While teaching my 7 year old how to make my cookies, I discovered that I usually scoop ~2.5 cups of flour, not 2.25 as the recipe calls for. C'est la vie.
- I mix the chocolate chips in with my hand blender on low speed.. I've been using the same Kitchen Aid for 21 years now. My husband just got me a Kitchen Aid super-duper stand mixer for Christmas and I'm sure I'll have to ditch that habit to avoid having chocolate shards instead of chips. LOL
I've also only used a mixer once or twice, much prefering the texture and taste of the cookies when hand mixed.
Oh, yes, and thank you, I'm finally beginning to understand the mind of engineers, just from reading this one recipe (and here I was merely looking for a recipe for fudge!!) Fascinating! Thank you
lilibon
This makes it CRITICAL that you chill the dough before baking.
I'm also a big fan of doubling the vanilla (in just about everything I make)..
The warmer the butter the flatter the cookie.
This tends to not be an issue in places like Seattle where it never is that warm but I have moved to Thailand and found that if I cream my butter for the same amount of time as I am used to back in the States it has gotten too warm and the cookies turn out flat. That and the flour protein issue mentioned above will make for a flat cookie.
You can just go ahead and make the recipe with milk chocolate chips. The chocolate will be sweeter and have a different taste, but the cookies will still be great!
You can just go ahead and make the recipe with milk chocolate chips. The chocolate will be sweeter and have a different taste, but the cookies will still be great!
Some people consider me a little low class in my chocolate tastes because I actually prefer milk chocolate chips in my cookies. :)
Peppermint, orange, or banana extract/flavoring (to taste, but as a guideline, about the same amount as the vanilla)
Dried cherries
Dried cranberries
Dried cherried and dried cranberries, plus lemon extract
The maple and honey, however, didn't turn out nearly as well: they caused the cookies to spread out and possibly not cook evenly. I think the problem was that the dough was too liquid; next time I try it I'll leave out one of the eggs. They were still tasty, though.
I found a good method of running these types of experiments, too: I make the dough for the base recipe, then get n bowls (where n is the number of kinds of cookies I want to make), divide the dough into the bowls, and add the extra stuff. That way if it doesn't turn out well, it's just a few cookies instead of the whole batch. (It does make it a little harder to fine-tune amounts and figure out how to scale them up, though.) I also line the pans with foil and change the foil after every set to avoid cross-contamination when extracts are involved.
About the butter being too warm and causing them to spread out -- Does that mean refrigerating the dough before baking will fix that problem? Or is it dependent on how warm the butter is when mixing?
2 cups brown sugar 2 tsp. baking soda
2 cups white sugar 4 cups flour
2 cups vegetable oil 1 & 1/2 cups oatmeal (not instant)
4 large eggs 4 cups crushed corn flakes
2 Tbsp. vanilla 1 large bag semi-sweet choc. chips
1 tsp. salt 1 cup chopped nuts (if desired)
Mix all ingredients in a large bowl. The mixture may be crumbly. Form golf-ball-sized balls by hand, pressing choc. chips into the dough, and place on ungreased cookie sheets. Bake at 325 degrees for 12-15 minutes. This recipe makes a huge batch, enough to give to many friends.
The resulting cookies are chewy and crunchy (because of the corn flakes) at the same time. I haven't had a disappointed taster yet.
BTW, I thoroughly enjoyed reading all the engineer/cook comments.
Nancy
Nancy
I was making this recipe and I followed it almost exactly, but I ended up overmixing the dough with the mixer :unsure: I'm keeping the dough in the fridge overnight, but what can I do to "reverse" this (if possible)? What will happen to the cookies if I use this dough? Is there any way to avoid that? I don't have enough time/materials to bake another batch (since I need them for tomorrow), but I just wanted to know if any of the engineers or anyone else has experienced this and has a solution!
Thanks,
Sonya
Just to clarify, the regular Toll House Cookies is still a soft cookie. This recipe is not for the crispy, hard cookies (like Famous Amos).
Michael, you are wrong wrong wrong. The original cookie as was most cookies in the late 1800's and up to the 1960's. Soft cookies could not be brought to market and the only way one could experience it was when Mom made them and pulled them from the oven.
Just to clarify, the regular Toll House Cookies is still a soft cookie. This recipe is not for the crispy, hard cookies (like Famous Amos).
Michael, you are wrong wrong wrong. The original cookie as was most cookies in the late 1800's and up to the 1960's. Soft cookies could not be brought to market and the only way one could experience it was when Mom made them and pulled them from the oven.
Sure, that may be true - but I'm not talking about the original cookie... the recipe on the bag produces a soft cookie. (I have to assume that people ask about the currently available recipe when answering questions.)
Thanks for a great site.
Oh, and just to weigh in, I'd also have to disagree with the suggestion that the original recipe (with white and brown sugar) makes a soft cookie. The cookies are soft when they are warm, but turn crisp (not *hard*) when cooled. One way to soften them up (if desired) is to store them in plastic bags instead of less permeable containers like the traditional cookie jar. One could even put a slightly damp paper towel in the bag.
There are two factors that give your cookies their shape. Amount of liquid and oils in the recipe versus the dry ingredients.
Facts
*you do not need baking soda or baking powder in your recipe
*you do not need to melt or let your butter sit at room temperature before you use it
*the more flour you use, the chunkier your cookie will be. Depending on if you over do it, they can come out dry as well so dont get crazy and reinvent the wheel.
*darker color metals heat faster and retain heat longer. They are also the reason you get that pretty brown bottom on your cookie if you don't like it brown all the way through [I don't].
*silver baking sheets require some kind of non stick spray and won't cook as evenly as the hotter non stick sheet will
No fail chocolate chip recipe
1 egg
1 tbs of vanilla
3/4c brown sugar
3/4c white sugar
1 3/4c flower [sifted or non it doesnt matter]
1 1/4 stick butter
1/2 - 3/4c chocolate chips
*nuts optional
Preheat the oven to 350 degrees. Bake 10 minutes if you're using a non stick gray/dark colored cookie sheet. Bake 12 minutes if you're using a silver cooking sheet. This recipe will produce yummy flat normal looking cookies. If you like them chunky and dunkable, add 1/4 more flour to the batter.
ENJOY!
chips seemed to lose quality as the years went by. So I held a taste test
at my house. I used a cookie recipe published in the New York Times (7/9/08)
and varied the chocolate chips. Here are the results.
Taste Test One:
Bittersweet Girardelli - 1 vote
Bittersweet Nestle - 2 votes
Real Semi-Sweet Guittard - 3 votes
Milk Chocolate Guittard - 3 votes
Taste Test Two:
Akoma Xtra Semi-Sweet Guittard - 1 vote
Milk Chocolate Guittard - 0 votes
Real Semi-Sweet Guittard - 4 votes
Callebaut Semisweet - 1 vote
Taste Test Three:
Milk Chocolate Guittard - 0 votes
Real Semi-Sweet Guittard - 2 votes
Callebaut Semi-Sweet - 0 votes
Callebaut Milk Chocolate - 4 votes
With each successive tasting I tried to eliminate the least favorite and
add in a new contender. Overall, I would say that people who grew up with
simi-sweet liked Guittards semi-sweet, while people who grew up with milk
chocolate liked Callebaut milk chocolate.
To me, the NYT recipe seems almost indistinguishable from Mrs. Fields. The
secret seems to be resting the dough for 36 hours in the fridge.
Tony
I soften my unsalted butter and allow my eggs to reach room temp. I use my stand mixer and always make a double batch. I use a dry measuring cup and put 1/3 c for each cookie and put only 6 on a standard shiny cookie sheet on parchment paper. I bake at at 375 for 12 minutes (first batch maybe a minute longer since pan isn't heated, just for consistency) This make 15 cookies per batch. I give away a dozen and keep 3.
The second batch I measure up and put on a cookie sheet side-by-side and put in the freezer for a couple of hours then transfer to freezer bag. I can pull out the frozen cookies and bake them up (15 minutes for frozen) when I have guests. I have also tried to roll them and slice them but they don't look homemade since the choc chips and sliced. They present much better made into the individual cookies and then frozen.
If anyone happens to have the conversion to made 5 or more batches at a time I would love it. I want to bake cookies for my church coffee cafe and use their commercial kitchen. I'm afraid I would burn up stand mixer making so many double batches. Lastly, I buy all ingredients at my local grocery store as I live in a small city with no warehouse stores. Is there another source to purchase large bulk items or must I drive 1 1/2 hours to a Sams?
Thanks
From the original recipe:
Cut salt in half
Use 1/2 butter and 1/2 shortening (butter for flavor and shortening for more body)
1/2 tsp water if you want crisper edges
bake at 350
YES!! I though I'd lose my mind trying to find someone who remembers the recipe from the 60's being different! I don't remember specific ingredients bit I DO recall needing greased sheets, and the resulting cookie was VERY distinctive looking - more whitish and lumpy rather than the now-ubiquitous browned cookie. I also wrote Nestle about it who gave me an unsatisfactory, stock reply answer.I'm also looking for the ORIGINAL recipe. Please let me know if you find it and if I find it first, I'll re-post here.
http://www.premiersystems.com/recipes/desserts/cookie-chip.html
This is one of those few recipes that seem to be just about right, and real hard to improve on. This famous old recipe is originally from Kenneth and Ruth Wakefield's "New England Toll House" near Whitman, Massachusetts, and was brought to the world's attention by Betty Crocker in the late 1930's. It is truly an American classic.
Sift together and reserve:
* 2 cups sifted flour
* 1/2 tsp soda
* 1/2 tsp salt
Turn the oven to 375'. quick moderate.
Beat well together:
* 1/3 cp butter
* 1/3 cp vegetable shortning
* 1/2 cp white sugar
* 1/2 cp brown sugar
* 1 lg egg
* 1 tsp vanilla
Stir in:
* flour mixture, then:
* 1/2 cp chopped nuts
* 6 oz, about 1 1/4 cp, chocolate chips
I double the recipee and add triple vanilla (I make it home made) and one extra egg yolk (staqndard "large" eggs) for a little extra richness and moisture.
The BFG in cookies is to let the dough sit for at least 12 and up to 48 hours (seriously). This lets the flour hydrate and the sugers melt and combine better. You will find that regardless of the texture you prefer (adjusting flour and brown to white suger ratios) the flavor boost from a well hydrated dough is marvelous.
I cook largeish cookies on a lower temp in a convection oven (325 for 15 min, until the edges start to tan a bit, no longer)
Note about sugars, brown sugar contains more moisture than white, you can alter texure by playing with the sugar ratio.
Ingredient temp, another way to alter resulting texture is to use melted vs softened butter (I never use shortening). It is about moisture again, when you melt the butter the water in it seperates and hydraates the flour differently than usign softened butter. In my experiments I could not deside so I nuke cold butter until about half of it is melted. Since I "age" my dough I think most details surrounding temperature are moot.
Since I bake the chilled dough I have been slicing it, previous notes about not wanting to molest the chips are duely noted =P
I was reading all the comments and was SO HAPPY to read that the Original Toll House recipe called for Shortening. I was just telling my daughter yesterday that I was positive about the shortening, but could not find any recipe that says it is the original recipe with shortening.
I used to make awesome chocolate chip cookies. I started using the recipe with the butter and find it is not the same. Even with 1/2 butter and 1/2 shortening, it does not taste the same.
I am going to try another batch right now with just shortening. I remember the dough was so thick it was very hard to mix in the chips and nuts. The cookies came out crisp on the outside and somewhat soft on the inside. I took some to work one day years ago and they all said I was the chocolate chip champ!!
Any suggestions? Thanks
I haven't tried it, but I would increase the flour (perhaps by about 1/2 cup) in the recipe. After the cookie dough is prepared, roll it out, cut, place on a sheet, and stick it in the refrigerator for 15 minutes before baking. That should help keep their shape.
a bit of research turned up quite a few:
http://www.cooksrecipes.comcookiechocolate_chip_cookie_brittle_recipe.html
http://www.recipegoldmine.com/candybrit/toll-house-brittle.html
this one is credited to Nestle proper:
http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Chocolate-Chip-Cookie-Brittle/Detail.aspx
Thank you so very much.
I wildly speculate that it is the excess oils in the nuts causing the problem. Is that the case? If I should actually want to increase the nuts, should I decrease the amount of butter?
Oh, and I also recall the shortening in the Toll House recipe. The reason I remember it is because Nana told me to always substitute real butter when I make them if I want to make "her cookies." Now, everyone makes her variation. :D
set oven to 375˚
-2 3/4 cup flour
-1 1/8 tsp. baking soda
-five or six shakes of salt from a salt shaker
-2 cups (2 sticks) butter halfway melted
-3/4 cup sugar
-3/4 cup packed brown sugar
-1 tsp. vanilla
-2 eggs
-2 cups nestle toll house chocolate chips
beat all of this together at once and then add chocolate chip cookies. use your hands to mix in the chocolate chip cookies. i know the hands thing helps some how. but the dough should be moderately stiff.
roll the dough into 2 inch. balls and place on cookie sheet. bake 10-11 minutes.
2 sticks is one cup...
Rhaz
1 1/8 cups sifted white wheat flour
1/4 tsp. baking soda
1/2 tsp. salt
1/2 c. shortening
1/4 c. brown sugar
1/2 c. granulated sugar
1 large egg, beaten
1 tsp. vanilla extract
8 ounces semisweet chocolate (bar or pieces)
1/2 c. walnuts
Sift flour, soda and salt together. Cream shortening and sugars together. Add egg and vanilla. Blend thoroughly. Add sifted ingredients. Cut chocolate into small pieces if bar is used. Fold in nuts and chocolate. Drop from teaspoon onto greased baking sheet. Bake in moderate oven (350) about 10 minutes. Makes 50 cookies.
They taste great, are chewy and crisp. Give them a try :-)
BTW - ever note when you type a response, you cannot spell!!! I sure wish these things had spell checker - but at least they have preview. One would think I didn't know a word of English if I couldn't go back in and fix all the typo's...
A few things the creator of this recipe, Ruth Wakefield, would do that got lost on the way to the current recipe on the Nestle bag are:
1. She dissolved the baking soda in a teaspoon of warm water before mixing into batter. I am not sure if she still added it to the flour after this.
2. She refrigerated the dough overnight, so upon baking the cookies they came out at least twice the thickness of what you have pictured.
3. She did sift her dough. I have no idea how you came up with your calculations, but you're killing your mixer.
A few of my own side notes:
These cookies are best if you don't mix the batter too intensely, especially the eggs. If you are using an electric mixer, stop about halfway before the eggs are as pulverized as you believe they could be. The rest will work after you add in the flour mixture.
I prefer a better chocolate such as Baker's semi-sweet squares, coarsely chopped. It's not quite as sweet and has a richer flavor, considering the dough is already pretty sweet.
I sub 1/4 cup of white sugar for an extra 1/4 cup brown sugar instead.
I sub a tablespoon of butter with a tablespoon of unrefined coconut oil to give it an imperceptible enhancement in flavor.
Mexican vanilla and kosher salt make a big difference in overall flavor.
These cookies will ruin your life and are roll your socks up and knock your d*ck in the dirt good.
My next plan is to add a bit of ground instand coffe into the mix.
I tried new baking soda, new flour . . . still flat . . . so flat I have to scrape them off the sheet. They are not even cookies anymore.
What am I doing???? This just isn't that hard a recipe!
I will keep checking back & hope that some kind soul is able to locate the Nestle recipe that prevaled in the 50's and 60's. Surely lots of people have that gem kicking around! Thanks for a truly enlightening site.
do be aware - Crisco has changed its formulation in the trans-fat flappola.
many bakers have found the "new Crisco" does not work quite like the "old Crisco"
My heartfelt thanks to the poster with that wild-sounding suggestion. It truly worked. For what it's worth, I also took the liberty of changing the sugars to 1 C brown and 1/2 C white, and I doubled the Vanilla.
Thanks to the wonderful posters on this site! I strongly advise those who are having the problem w/flat Tollhouse cookies to add an additional 1/2 Cup + a teaspoon or two of flour to the batter (for the 12 oz. bag o'chips). You'll get thick, jumbly-looking cookies that aren't flat or greasy.
I've not seen any decent descriptions of how to compensate for the no-transfat Crisco. certainly not any "food science" info - but I'll settle for practical methods to outwit the formulation changes.
when you think back to the ba-zillion recipes using Crisco, them's be a whole lotta' disappointed folks with the "new" stuff.
They had like 3 cups of sugar
Chocolate chips
Oatmeal
but don't remember the rest of the ingredients. Anyone out there remember???? Thanks Ann
sounds suspicious >g<
The first batch gave me huge cookies, 13cm (5in) in diameter. For later batches I used smaller dumplings, 2,5 cm (1in) in diameter that spread nicely into 50 cookies with a diameter of cca 6cm (2+1/3in). Perfect : )
I've been playing with CCC recipes for years --my mother (a chocoholic) always made them "flat & hard," while a friend of mine's mother's were like muffin tops. (All good, but I now prefer more chewy, maybe not so many chips.)
I've played with applesauce, instead of fat [gives you something more like a dog biscuit or nature bar]. I've also done a lot of variations, replacing part of the flour with oatmeal or ground oatmeal [as long as you stay under 50% the taste difference is not noticeable]. These experiments were to make a better, better for me/you cookie.
I find that you can get softer cookies by reducing the baking temp by 25-75 F.
Lately, inspired by sites like this, I've been comparing recipes I find on-line, based on my preference, but pro-rated by cups fat/cup flours, cups sugar(s)/cup flours, and eggs/cup flours. (for example: 3x vanilla is a variation, not a whole new recipe)
The Toll house above, that began all this is 0.45 fat, 0.67 sugar, 0.89 egg. [0.34 fat, 0.51 sugar, 0.68 egg ---if you're weighing your flours, by his numbers]
A higher number means higher content, in proportion to the flour.
My current fav is 0.35 fat, 0.59 sugar, 0.47 egg. (link to it, below, although fat still seems a bit high, if you use low trans-fat...) The "1939" recipe ref'd above is 0.45 fat, 0.67 sugar, 0.68 egg.
I line old empty Al foil or plastic wrap boxes with plastic wrap, pack it solid, and freeze the dough. This gives it a very convenient size/shape ---I just slice off about 1 inch slices --which can then be cut into 2, 3, or 4 parts each, for baking.
My current favorite Soft recipe is [url="http://www.recipesecrets.net/forums/recipe-exchange/409-wanted-soft-sug...ink[/url]
Hope my rambling helps somebody...
holy cow. what happened to equilibrium?
For creaming the butter and sugar together, use the paddle as the directions above suggest.
When it's time to add the flour mixture, change to the dough hook and put the shields on. Turn the mixer on the lowest setting or one notch up from this. Use a large metal spoon and spoon in the flour mixture one spoon at a time. This will keep the flour from getting all over the sides of the bowl.
Because of the shape of the dough hook, you can also add in the chocolate chips instead of mixing by hand - it won't smash them up like the paddle can.
These alterations work with most cookie recipies.
many bakers have reported different, typically not in a positive direction, results using 'the new Crisco' (for example)
butter has not changed....
By the way, one reason for the wild fluctuations in textures and tastes readers are describing is because of the flour issue. Flour used in baked goods needs to be weighed because as the article points out, using cups and volume measurements is a very imprecise method, with the amount depending on which of the three general methods you use to measure it (sift, or spoon-and-sweep, or dip-and-sweep). Fortunately, more and more Americans are getting wise and buying kitchen scales. The other flour issue is its protein content. Gold Medal flour, with a protein content of about 10.5%, will create cookies that bake up much differently than, say, King Arthur flour, which has a protein content of 11.7%. Whether the flour is bleached or unbleached is yet another variable.
<b>Toll House Chocolate Crunch Cookies</b>
from <i>Toll House Tried and True Recipes </i> by Ruth Wakefield, 1937, M. Barrows (New York)
Yield: 100 cookies
1 cup butter, creamed
3/4 cup brown sugar
3/4 cup white sugar
2 eggs, beaten
1 teaspoon soda; dissolved in
1 teaspoon hot water
2 1/4 cup flour; sifted with
1 teaspoon salt
1 cup chopped nuts
12 ounces semi-sweet chocolate morsels
1 teaspoon vanilla
Cream butter. Add sugars and eggs. Dissolve baking soda in hot water. Add alternately with sifted flour. Add chopped nuts, chocolate morsels, and vanilla. Drop by half-teaspoonfuls onto greased cooky sheet. Bake in moderate oven, 375 degree F, for 10 to 12 minutes. Makes 100 cookies. At Toll House, we chill the dough overnight. When mixture is ready for baking, we roll a teaspoon of dough between palms of hands and place balls 2 inches apart on greased baking sheets. Then we press balls with finger tips to form flat rounds. This way cookies do not spread as much in baking and they keep uniformly round. They should be brown through, and crispy, not white and hard as I have sometimes seen them.
- linda :(
Toll House Cookies II: Although we lived in a city, I spent much time during the war helping on my grandparents' farm. Grandma's 'Toll House' cookies were the best ever, made with fresh eggs from her 'free range' chickens and butter hand churned from the thick cream that rose to the top of the milk hand-squeezed from her milk cows. No chocolate chips were available locally, so G'ma chopped up squares of baking chocolate. The results, while not the 'real thing' were absolutely delicious.
I realized that my problem was that in order to save time, I had nuked the 2 sticks of salted butter and they got over melted. I tried again a few days later, letting the butter soften at room temperature for about an hour, but got the same results.
After reading a lot of the tips on this site, I tried again. Third try's a charm, right? In my case, it absolutely was! These are the best Toll House cookies I've ever tasted. Variances I made were using 1/2 salted butter and 1/2 butter flavored Crisco instead of all butter, using a 1/2 cup more flour, and using 2 1/2 teaspoons of vanilla. I hand mixed instead of using beaters and kept the dough in the fridge between batches. I only had jumbo eggs on hand so I used 1 1/2 eggs to compensate.
These cookies taste extra sweet because of the extra vanilla and remind me of Mrs. Field's. If you're not a fan of extra sweet, try 2 teaspoons of vanilla instead of the 2 1/2 I used or the 1 teaspoon called for.
Thanks to everyone for the helpful tips; I'll invite you all to the wedding! :P
The primary contributor for the cakey texture of cookies is the proportion of flour to butter. How are you measuring your flour? Using a cup and straight edge to level is a poor way to measure flour since a cup of flour can vary from less than 125 g to 200 g depending on how settled the flour is. Since the recipe calls for 2-1/4 cup flour (about 280 g), scooping out of the bag without having sifted the flour could very likely result in a 160g per cup scoop yielding 360 g (which results in the other recipe that is more cakey). Since flour settles over time or might get stirred up, I would suspect that is the reason for the inconsistency.
If you're measuring your flour accurate by using a scale, then the problem might be the temperature of the butter and dough when it hits the oven. In general, the warmer it is to start with, the more it will spread.
I find it contradictory that an engineer would compose recipes in an imprecise and antiquated system of cups and teaspoons.
An engineer would formulate recipes in baker percentages, which is a more precise method and it also has the advantage of being able to scale easily.
Yes, I realize most readers employ cup and teaspoon measurement, but an engineer should first write the recipe in bakers percentages then give the recipe in the approximate cups and teaspoons.
The most frustrating thing is to find a great site like yours and then have to convert a desired recipe to bakers percentages.
the inability to translate between volume and weight measures is not a engineering problem for the experienced engineer baker / cook.
I would also offer the opinion that using baker's percentages would be a complete disaster for the average baking homemaker. the disaster typically takes shape as:
"What up? how can I have a 100% hydration dough? it would be all water!"
there's a reason they call it "baker's percentage" - bakers know what to do with it - the average home person in charge of cooking / baking does not.
baker's percentages are very useful for scaling a recipe; for a fixed recipe they are of little actual value.
Sorry, but I like my cookies flat, not fat. I am also like the other poster who said maybe he could help with his comment and his comment was that he "liked eating chocolate chip cookies". I can help that way as well.
This is a great forum. I am an engineer and its nice to see it engineer friendly....but I agree shouldn't the recipe be shown in BP's?
125 grams all-purpose flour makes a cupful? Actually you cannot put 125 grams of aerated all-purpose flour into a measuring cup without tamping or tapping the cup on the countertop or squishing a bit to get it all in there. I suppose that the standard for 125 grams per cup is a good standard, but the only good way to get that is to weigh it, in my opinion. Don't use the cup.
I would forget about the sifter unless you keep your flour long enough to get weevils in it. In my opinion the only real use for a sifter came from the days when people were so poor that they couldn't afford to replace their flour when it got old and they used it unhappily to get the weevils out. I still use one but it is because of my eyes; I can't see all that well anymore and sometimes need to check my flour for weevils to see if I need to toss it. Common sense tells me that that was all the sifter was ever really used for.
Now if you guys are ending up with a flat cookie and you decide logically to add more flour, you really need to know whether you are adding more flour on top of a 110 gram per cup measures or maybe 125 gram per cup measures or even the 150 grams or more that you may get from a scooped cup. I can guarantee you that if you use scooped out cups of packed flour and you are still ending up with flat cookies, something else is definitely wrong, because a scooped out cup obtained from stored, settled flour is going to yield fat cookies. Personally, I don't know what all the hubub is over wanting fat cookies. To me if you use quite a lot of flour, you really can taste the flour. So if you are wanting to add more flour for a fatter cookie make sure you don't add so much that you get a flour-ry tasting cookie.
What I really like is double chocolate CCC's and with those I surely like them better if they are flat, so I for one really don't understand the desire for fat, cakelike chocolate chip cookies.
I buy regular butter and never add any additional salt to the recipe.
Everyone who tastes my cookies wants the recipe.
I only use the Original Toll House Recipe with real vanilla, and no salt.
Just exactly what is the purpose of adding salt to the recipe? Will it imporve the recipe?
Salt adds another flavor dimension to the cookies. Next time you make CCC, add a pinch of salt into the batter (perhaps just one tray's worth) and bake as you normally would. If you put just the right enough, you'll find that the cookie tastes a little sweeter, a little stronger than normal and you shouldn't be able to readily identify the change as saltiness. Some people prefer cookies with a bit more salt than others (just as some prefer more sweet or more chewy) but I encourage trying out the use of salt in chocolate chip cookies at least once. You might find that to be your new secret ingredient :)
Anyone know an explanation for this phenomena??
Elisabeth
psalm1002 at gmail dot com
I live in a city located 2,000 meters above the sea level. Whrn I make the cookies they get vey thin and the borders get burned, maybe you know what ca I do about it.
Thank you very much
I have changed the fleishmans margarine back to butter. I have tried crisco, which she also used sometimes.
I have added more flour.
I have used only 1 egg.
FLAT FLAT FLAT.
I am even using the same flour brand.
Same baking soda/powder too.
I want the harder on the outside, softer in the center, drier rather than chewy, crisper rather than cakelike cookie from the 70s.
They stored well in a metal tin or cookie jar.
You could dunk them in milk and they held their shape.
They could last for weeks in the tin with no flavor or texture change.
Now they taste salty, and are chewy, and crumbly at the same time.
Could it be both the flour AND the margarine/crisco/butter has changed since the 70-80s? Or maybe the baking soda/powder?
I even tried extra walnuts.
UGHHHH!
Any other suggestions? I read the whole set of posts here. Only a couple are actually looking for the same thing. Thanks.
Oven temperature maybe? Did you guys get a new oven during the 90's? Oven temperatures at the same setting vary widely from oven to oven (even same model) from my experience.
I don't remember advocating packing the flour to measure. I think you should use a scale whenever possible.
if the dough has warmed up, it spreads too fast and goes flat before it 'sets up'
you can also try baking on parchment vs something slippery - a bit more 'resistance' to the spreading....
Thanks
"How To Make Famous Toll House Cookies", Nestle's Ad, May 7, 1940, Milwaukee Journal.
(Link to ad with original recipe in Google newspaper archive)
http://tinyurl.com/44n5dz4
A bit too sweet for my taste, though. Does the sugar serve any purpose other than sweetening? What would happen if I reduced the amount from 1˝ cups to 1 cup?
A bit too sweet for my taste, though. Does the sugar serve any purpose other than sweetening? What would happen if I reduced the amount from 1˝ cups to 1 cup?
Jim, I would try removing 1/4 cup first. And I would subtract that 1/4 cup from the granulated quantity, not the brown sugar. That's almost 17% less sugar, which should be a noticeable difference. You can also cut the sweetness by using dark chocolate chips instead of the usual semi-sweet.
If that's still too sweet then I'll cut the suger.
Thanks.
I always use more vanilla than called for - personal preference. Also use darker chips and usually a few more of those than the recipe.
One key is to not over-cook the cookies. I take them out before they look done. There's a little carry-over when cooling on the cookie sheet. Otherwise, they get a little tough. Each oven is a little different - practice, practice, practice...
more than one source says the recipe on the bag isn't the original.
there is no truth available, Mrs. T. House is dead and can no longer provide the original recipe.
my advise is simple: find one that you like and works for you and use it.
It used to really be the original recipe on the bag .... but since ~1960, it has had a problem.
Until ~1980 the recipe included the words "2 1/4 cups unsifted flour" .... After ~1980 the recipe just says, "2 1/4 cups flour"
You wouldn't think the word "unsifted" wouldn't make a big difference. But it does!
Before ~1950, the only way people bought their flour was in hard, compact, brick-like blocks.
Everyone had a huge sifter-storage bin in their kitchen cupboard, with a built-in sifter at the bottom of the bin.
You cannot buy "unsifted" flour at the grocery store anymore. It is all "pre-sifted" now.
2 1/4 cups unsifted flour = ~3 cups sifted flour.
Hence: everyone is making flat greasy cookies.
I wrote to Nestle in the 1970s to point this out (when the package still said "unsifted" ... but they sent me coupons, and didn't change it.
Then sometime in the 1980s they took away the word "unsifted".
My grandmother and great-grandmother converted the toll-house cookie recipe to accommodate this change in the way we buy flour.
They seemed to have slightly improved upon it too.
My daughter tells me the KFC does a good job too - - but the Colonel was probably old enough to accommodate the change as well.
People have been telling me for 40 years:
"These are great."
"These are so soft and chewy!"
"Mine come out flat and greasy."
"How do you keep the chips 'whole'?"
So this weekend, I decided to try the back-of-the-bag recipe and see what all the complaints were about.
Test #!: Original Recipe as printed on the bag:
They turned out extremely flat and greasy, and the chips sort of "exploded." But they did taste pretty good. The color was dark brown, almost caramelized.
The dough was very sticky-wet - and stuck to the spoon.
Test #2: Original Recipe + 1/2 cup more flour
Better - not as tasty as Test #1; the chips remained intact. Color was not bad.
The dough was less wet.
Test #3: Original Recipe + 3/4 cup more flour
They were more puffed up, did not flatten; but they were sort of tasteless. Color was a bit pale.
The dough was about right - did not stick to the spoon.
Test #4: Nestle's store-bought dough (no mixing)
These had the best taste of the Nestle recipes ... they were a little flat, but not too greasy. The color was very similar to my cookies.
The dough was very good consistency - not sticky-wet. Nestle themselves has figured out part of the problem, obviously (since their premixed dough is a LOT better than the printed recipe).
Test #5: My cookies
They tasted great, as usual.
Here's the recipe:
Chocolate Chip Cookies = Original Toll-House Cookies
1. Mix with a sturdy spoon in a 3-quart pan or bowl:
3 sticks margarine, butter, or any combo thereof (don't use the unsalted or "lite" kind). I use "original" Fleischmann's margarine.
Soften the margarine/butter by letting it sit at room temperature ~3 hours or microwaving at very low power for a couple of minutes.
Don't let the margarine/butter separate or become liquid. I don't know why my grandmother has an extra stick of margarine/butter - but it is necessary.
1 cup of white sugar (any brand is fine)
1 cup of dark brown sugar (not the light-brown sugar - - any brand).
2 Large Eggs (any kind, any age, any temperature [straight from fridge, or room-temp is okay])
1 Tablespoon vanilla extract
2 Tablespoons molasses ( any brand - you cannot get dark-enough brown sugar any more, so you have to add this to get the taste right).
2. Measure out 4 cups of flour into a separate bowl.
Use all-purpose flour [not the self-rising kind]. I use Gold-Medal flour. All flour at the store is pre-sifted. No need to sift it!
3. Add 1 cup Flour - from your separate bowl -
Add 1 teaspoon salt
Add 1 teaspoon baking soda
Add 1 Tablespoon baking powder
Mix Well.
4. Add the rest of the flour from your separate bowl, 1 cup at a time, working it into the dough each time, until all the white powder is absorbed.
5. Make a test cookie @ 375 - 400 degrees F (depending on your oven) - bake for 8 - 10 min, depending on your oven.
You want the dough to be pretty stiff - it shouldn't cling to the spoon or be overly wet.
As it bakes, watch the edges of the cookie.
If the very-outer edges overly flatten out away from the rest of the cookie, you need to add a bit more flour (probably 1/2 cup - perhaps more if it's a humid day).
Do not add chips or nuts (optional) until you get the dough right and the test cookie is the way you want it to be.
6. Add a 12 oz bag of semi-sweet chocolate chips. I use Hershey's semi-sweet chips.
Keep the chips in the freezer until ready to use (especially important in the summer), to prevent the chips from melting into the dough.
Mix well.
You may bake right then, keep dough in fridge (ziplock bag) for up to 2 days before baking, or freeze up to 2 months before baking.
7. Bake as the test cookie above - - Use pre-heated oven, 375-400; 8-10 min.
Remove from cookie sheet - - Let cool flat, on Alum Foil - for at least 1 hour before putting away in storage containers.
Keep cookies in fridge or freezer.
If you like the fresh-out-of-the oven taste, put in toaster over for 1 minute before eating.
Makes about 40 - 60 cookies, depending on size of dough balls.
Now...long-winded as all this is (sorry 'bout that!) the reason I came looking in the first place was to see if I could substitute apple sauce for butter. Not for the fat reduction; simply because I didn't have enough butter. After reading this, I've opted to just go get more butter! As my daddy always said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
So I ended up here, at your post, and I was happy I did. Folks tell me (sometimes) I get too into the details. That's just the way I am...and it appears you may be too. I appreciate your attention to detail and the reasons why you did what you did.
THANKS A MILLION COOKIES!
My great grandmother was known for making excellent cookies, but she did not use measuring cups, she just added until it looked and felt right. My grandmother (daughter-in-law to my great grandmother) was not a touchy-feely cook, so she actually measured in cups as my great grandmother "measured" and wrote down the recipe.
My grandmother always made individual cookies, but since I prefer them soft and thick, I make them in a jelly roll pan as bar cookies. You do everything the same, but spread the entire batch of dough into a greased jelly roll pan (15" x 11", with a 1" lip) and bake for 20-25 minutes.
2 sticks butter (I always use salted, but you could use unsalted)
3/4 cup brown sugar, light or dark, your preference
3/4 cup white granulated sugar
2 large eggs (refrigerated or room temp)
1 tsp good vanilla (I like Penzey's double strength)
1 tsp baking soda
2 tsp hot water
1 tsp salt (regular table salt, not Kosher)
2 1/4 cups all purpose flour, I prefer unbleached, which can be harder to find sometimes. Measure the flour by giving it a stir (fluff it up just a little), scoop or spoon it lightly into the measuring cup, then level with a flat edge. Do not sift and do not pack. BTW, this is the correct way to measure flour for standard American recipes that do not specify the method.
2 cups (12 oz package) semi sweet chocolate chips
I stir everything using a wooden spoon, no mixer required. Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F.
Allow butter to come to room temp. Ideally you want it about 68 degrees F. If butter gets too warm, it will begin to act like melted butter and the cookies will be a different texture. You cannot recover the texture if the butter gets too warm (the crystalline structure is broken).
Cream the butter with the sugars, just until everything looks even. Add the eggs and vanilla and stir them into the creamed mixture.
In a separate bowl (just a very small one), mix the baking soda and hot water. This is an old-fashioned way of getting the soda "started". Add this mixture, plus to salt to the creamed mixture and stir in.
Add the flour all at once and stir in, just until the flour is mixed in. We do not want to form a lot of gluten. Add the chips and stir in.
Spread in the prepared pan and bake at 350 degrees F or until it's lightly and nicely browned on top, usually about 20-25 minutes. If you can, allow it to cool some before cutting into bars. In our house, we are all burning our fingers cutting them and eating them hot.
These are definitely best when eaten on the day they are baked.. The dough or the cookies do freeze well. I do sometimes freeze the dough in scoops. Then, I can bake just a few "conventional" cookies at a time and they are always freshly-baked.
This sounds interesting! Ever tried it with other baked goods?
Since the water gets the soda developing gas right away, I would anticipate it working quite well in cookies that have short baking times, as you don't need for the soda to "find" the free water in the dough (from the butter and eggs) to activate. I doubt it would help in things with a significant amount of free water, like a cake batter.
2 minor changes- I only had mostly xxlarge eggs so I chose one xxlarge and one medium size egg. I ended up having to add about 3 1/2 teaspoons water because my batter was too stiff from the flour. Had I used two xxlarge eggs, I would of had to use less water but then the cookies may have been too eggy. Its your call. If you are over 5200 feet, I highly recommend this cookie recipe.
I guess in my old age I've started doing things in steps, and now almost always make my dough and refrigerate at least a day in advance of cooking. This resulted in FINALLY being able to achieve nice looking cookies that are not flat. However, they are still not soft. I don't like soft cookies, in fact I dislike them, so this makes me very happy.
My family has grown accustomed to crunchy cookies, even if not their fave way to eat them. I never ate more than one store-bought chocolate chip cookie because they were all inferior, until I unfortunately discovered Famous Amos. I actually looked for them the other day and was surprised to not find them. I'm sorry another merger ruined a perfect, little store-bought cookie. I firmly believe Toll House cookies are meant to be crunchy; I just can't see how that can be avoided with the amount of butter that goes in them. And using anything less than 2 sticks of real butter is heresy! Bottom line, if you want "prettier" cookies, make your dough well ahead of baking; use a Pampered Chef cookie scoop, or equivalent; and be judicious in keeping them the same size, and keeping the scoop level on the side that goes against the cookie sheet.
My cookies are usually thin and crispy. The ones I made today are hard. I don't know what I did wrong. I have a new box of baking soda, and fresh ingredients. I saw a comment advising to cream sugar and shortening/butter until incorporated. I'll try that.
I switched to the 'store brand' which is still 'hydrogenated' -
The past three times I've made them and one time my husband made them...they have not turned out the way we like them. Today I tried one more time, and triple checked each ingredient before placing in the mixer. They turned out different again, not horrible but not the way my kids and grandkids like them. They are thicker and not as chewy. I am not using any new brands of ingredients. The only thing I can think of is the flour is different.
Thoughts anyone?
flour can definitely make a difference.
our market stopped carrying Ceresota - which I used for decades - and having switched to King Arthur I've had to 'adjust' recipe amounts for just about everything.
if you are using butter, is it the same 'temperature'? warm/cold butter affects how the cookies spread.
as does the cookie sheet - steel / aluminum / non-stick / parment paper . . .
(! yes - who'd thunk it...)
The cookies we have made in the past are chewy, flatten out some as they cook and get a little golden brown. We have used the same recipe for years because the family likes it the best.
The last few times we made them, including yesterday they did not flatten out, they are not chewy, and they didn't brown except the last batch which I left in the oven 4 minutes longer than normal browned a little. However, they were to hard to eat.
When it comes to these cookies we are creatures of habit. We have always used Cisco shortening and no parchment paper. We are using the same good quality cookie sheets we have used the last 5 plus years without a problem. We do use Sam's Club brand flour. This is not new though. We have used this flour for these cookies the past few years without a issue.
The first few times the cookies didn't turn out right I thought it must be something I was doing, however when my husband had the same problem I realized something was happening.
Yesterday some of the grandkids were here. We made the Nestlé Toll house cookies again. I triple checked each and every ingredient. They were OK but none of us really wanted a second one. Several of us tasted the dough before it was baked and everyone wanted more of that. This old family favorite is not a favorite at the present time.
Also, did you get the same sugar as before?
Is it possible that it's the oven? Maybe it's not hitting the same temperature as it used to? (or could it be a different oven?)
some basics: the tendency of cookies to 'spread out' depends on the consistency of the dough and the melting point of the fat. this is where Crisco got itself in trouble, the 'new' transfat free stuff does not melt at the same temp as the 'old' formula - which was (intentionally) close to the melt point of butter.
Sam's Club flour. this can also be an issue. store brands are not particularly consistent - Sam does not grow and mill his own wheat ( . . . ) they basically buy it from whoever is cheapest in dollars per ton when the contract is up. both the type/strain of wheat and the milling (fine-ness / particle size distribution / etc) affect how it absorbs moisture - which changes the moisture to flour ratio needed.
things you can try:
- increase the moisture
- substitute butter or oil for part of the shortening
obviously _something_ has changed or you would be getting the same result. it may take a little sleuthing to figure it out. I'd start by dividing a batch in half, then adding a bit more moisture to one half and check the difference. take particular note of how 'stiff' the dough is so you can replicate the results.
pastry dough and bread dough should also be rested between preparation and use. for the same reasons of hydration and solidifying the fats, and also for relaxing the gluten development when using higher gluten flours than one uses for cookies.
another variable: it is also better to have enough sheet pans, or enough time, to put each new batch of raw cookies onto a cold sheet pan. if your tests were happening one after another in a warm kitchen on warm pans, this was also a factor of the spread rates of the different amounts of flour.
I'm going to test it and get you back for feedback =)
Shannon Lege